Alex Jones represents the dumming-down of rebellion and a co-opting of the unestablished order of counter cultural forces. A provider of easy targets for the prejudices of the disillusioned, discontent and angry.
Following yesterdays introduction, lets now continue with the article proper as we follow the, then blossoming romance of the three amigos in:
The Strange Relationship of Infowars’ Alex Jones, Donald Trump and Roger Stone
Alex Jones represents the dumming-down of rebellion and a co-opting of the unestablished order of counter cultural forces.
He stands as a pied piper at the gates of hell, ready to lead you along myriad blind alleys of stupidities and cultural divisions.
A provider of easy targets for the prejudices of the disillusioned, discontent, and angry.
For those who know and remember, there have long been loose knit counter cultural movements that have worked tirelessly and fearlessly to expose the wrong doings of corrupt governments and systems around the world.
They have protested loudly against corruption, criminal wars, blatant lies and the propaganda that has been employed to keep citizens, who knows. perhaps even you, pacified and under control. They have, in the main, been peaceful, implacable and above all, inclusive and tolerant.
This zealot would have you believe that all those counter cultural forces that have been pushing back against a corrupt system, are actually tools of that self-same system. If that were the case, why one may ask, was the counter-intelligence program specifically tasked with attacking and disrupting the counter culture movement and black activists?
Something in your narrative Mr Alex Jones, just doesn’t add up.
Now why would that be?
Many citizens around the world are now awakening to the fact that, for many, many years, in fact for much of history, those in control of governments and business have been solely concerned with greasing their own palms and using tools of communication such as television, radio and newspapers as methods to keep populations asleep as to their true intentions, whilst at the same time disseminating information that often serves to encourage people to act en-masse against their own best interests.
With the advent of the digital age and the birth of social media, the suppression of the flow of information has become more or less impossible – save at the barrel of a gun – serving as a precursor to the sudden awakening of huge segments of the population to the fact that they are often being lied to on a massive scale.
Understandably people are angry. However, there is now a mass of information to drown in.
Much of this information is useful, much of it useless and much of it downright deceitful.
When we find that the outlets of ‘news’ and information that we have previously trusted are sorely lacking, and perhaps even poisonous to our psychological well-being, where is it that we turn for clarity and trusted sources?
How do we assess the tsunami of information headed towards us and ascertain facts from opinion and again reasoned opinion from mere fluff?
Come back soon and find out in the next episode of The Strange Relationship of Infowars Alex Jones, Donald Trump and Roger Stone.
It didn’t take long after the publishing of the first article and audio clip of the rebelinfo.com series, for the House January 6 committee to start confirming the need for greater scrutiny into the events and suspicious actions of a number of players in the days leading up to January 6
To get up to speed on the story so far, listen to the first full-length episode of the rebelinfo.com podcast
The series of articles follows the words and actions of infowars’ Alex Jones, his sidekick Owen Shroyer, Michael Flynn, and the totally innocent Roger Stone in December 2020 to early January 2021, and the days leading up to the January 6 Insurrection.
It didn’t take long after the publishing of the first article and audio clip of the rebelinfo.com series, for the House January 6 committee to start confirming the need for greater scrutiny into the events and suspicious actions of a number of players in the days leading up to January 6.
“The expansion of the dragnet to include 5 January is significant the source said, since it raises the specter of the committee prying open a window into what Trump and his top allies were doing the day before the Capitol attack.”
So just eleven days after our first article, we see signs that the lawmakers are willing to investigate more suspicious words and behaviour from more of Trumps wingmen and sycophants (one not ruling out the possibility of being the other too.)
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The rebelinfo.com January 6 Coincidence:
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Even more amazing was the sudden action that President Biden performed within an even shorter timespan from release of another rebelinfo.com article.
Using history as our guide, we pointed out the similarities between the shenanigans of Michael Flynn, Alex Jones and his sidekick, Owen Shroyer (oh yeah, and don’t forget the innocent guy, Roger “I’m not in control of anything while I’m flying” Stone) in the lead up to January 6 2021, and the events known as The Business Plot in 1930’s USA.
The Business Plot was a conspiracy launched by numerous wealthy businessmen to overthrow the government of Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a fascist dictator in his place. These businessmen had looked across the waters to Germany and thought Hitler really had something going on they should try out.
In the article we also explained, that if Michael Flynn believed he could get Trump to declare martial law and re-run the election in the states he narrowly lost, he must also have believed he had enough support in the military ranks to pull it off.
An accompanying article published later that day advised:
“The Biden administration has removed 18 Trump appointees to military service academy boards, among them the former press secretary Sean Spicer and adviser Kellyanne Conway.
Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, said: “The president’s objective is what any president’s objective is, to ensure you have nominees and people serving on these boards who are qualified to serve on them and who are aligned with your values.
Associated Press reported on Thursday that the 18 appointees, who also include Trump’s former national security adviser HR McMaster and Office of Management and Budget director Russell Vought, had been removed.”
So now we have two separate events in an incredibly short period of time confirming the thoughts of writers at rebelinfo.com that were published just days before.
You could almost be forgiven for thinking we are psychic here at rebelinfo.
But here’s the thing, when you start looking for events that confirm your suspicions, you’ll likely start to see them everywhere.
You can end up conflating every half-connected fact with your ideas, theories, and suspicions.
That’s when you start to see “them” and “they” everywhere.
And depending on how informed and practiced in reasoning your friends are, you can probably get your friends to believe the same sort of things you do.
Hell, if you are really brazened, you could start a radio show and force feed people the same baloney day after day, week after week and year after year, playing to your audiences worst fears, and stoking their pet hatreds, and get them believing in all sorts of half and even non-connected facts to prove your worldview.
If you have an impeccable work ethic and messianic zeal, you could probably get millions of people to believe the same things you profess to.
“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Nietzsche (Beyond Good and Evil: Prelude to a Philosophy of the Future (1886), Chapter IV
Just like Alex Jones.
Don’t be Alex Jones.
And then what will you do with the monster you created?
Will the alleged plotters of the January 6th, 2021 insurrection walk free?
It’s a good question.
Many feel that because so far, no charges for anyone above the level of useful idiot or standard street Nazi have been brought, none ever will.
Over the course of the last few episodes of rebelinfo.com, we have presented some highly compelling evidence that there did appear to be a level of co-ordination between the main media facing players of the day, Michael Flynn and Alex Jones, with Roger Stone swanking around somewhere in the background being completely innocent of any and all charges that may be levelled against him now, in the past, or in the future.
There is one thing that stands out in Flynn’s exhortations to Trump in the run-up to January 6th, 2021, however.
It’s something that gives away one of two things.
Either Michael Flynn is an insane fantasist, or he, and others tied to or serving in the U.S. military believed they had enough support to overthrow the U.S. government by military means. The second does not nullify the supposition that Flynn is insane.
Being insane does not mean you have less influence.
In fact, the history of recent U.S. politics and geo-political shenanigans would tend to suggest that the insane are far more likely to hold power and influence.
So back to Flynn’s urging for Trump to take unprecedented action to halt the transition to the Biden presidency.
Let’s remember what Michael Flynn was asking for once again, according to the independent.co.uk, Flynn:
“Claimed [the] extraordinary executive actions were necessary to avoid the alternative of an imminent “shooting civil war”.”
If anyone is unsure still as to what that meant, Trump replied by publishing a 46-minute video to Facebook calling on the Supreme Court to overturn the results in the key swing states that delivered the projected victory to the Democrats.
“He also suggested a “re-vote” be held, as had been suggested in the ad on Tuesday that called for the military to run the re-election.
“called for the military to run the re-election“
That’s worth repeating.
The military running a re-election is about as martial law as you can get.
With all this evidence, right out there in the open, you might think it would be a slam dunk that some sort of sanctions might be put on Alex Jones, Michael Flynn and even Trump.
Obviously not Roger Stone though.
Stone always comes across as a guy who’s completely innocent.
Arguments have been made about why we should and shouldn’t put these people on trial should it be that they are guilty of whatever it is they might be guilty of, or not.
However, the ultimate answer to that question may well be answered more by history, than talking head postulation and platitude.
The nearest parallel The United States has to the January 6th, 2021, insurrection, is the Business Plot of the 1930’s.
The instigators of the business plot attempted to use the popularity of retired General Smedley Butler, to lead a coup, promising him an army of 500,000 men for a march on Washington, D.C., and financial backing in order to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a dictator.
Sound familiar at all?
The plot was thwarted however, by one General Smedley Butler.
Butler became a folk hero to many veterans and civilians by “denouncing capitalism and bankers, and going on to explain that for 33 years he had been a “high-class muscle man” for Wall Street, the bankers and big business, labelling himself as a “racketeer for Capitalism”
The plotters thought they had Butler on side, but he sniffed out their scheme to overthrow democracy in the United States, and double crossed them, passing his evidence to the state, thus preventing the coup.
In April to May 2016, I wrote an article which imagined a future scenario in which Alex Jones and Roger Stone maybe central to a coup attempt to shift the USA away from democratic (small d) control towards authoritarianism.
Towards the end of the article, I opined that should such an event arise:
“We need however to be extremely wary of who is behind the emerging political movements, activist groups and media outlets and what resources they have to hand and for whose benefit those resources are intended to be used.”
The popular media of the day mocked General Smedley Butlers accusations:
“A New York Times editorial dismissed Butler’s story as “a gigantic hoax” and a “bald and unconvincing narrative.” Thomas W. Lamont of J.P. Morgan called it “perfect moonshine”. Gen. Douglas MacArthur, alleged to be the back-up leader of the putsch if Butler declined, referred to it as “the best laugh story of the year.” Time magazine and other publications also scoffed at the allegations.
Bald and unconvincing narrative, indeed. Didn’t he know plotting a coup was illegal?
Nothing works like that.
And what, you may ask, became of those who plotted to overthrow Franklin D. Roosevelt as president of The United States and install a fascist dictator?
Was anyone prosecuted or held to account?
No. As above
“No one was prosecuted. At the time of the incidents, most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a “gigantic hoax.”
History does have a habit of repeating itself, generally as farce before tragedy.
Yesterday at rebelinfo.com, we asked some questions that may be important, or perhaps shouldn’t be asked at all.
Or, as some would have it, are just plain ridiculous because they are illegal and “nothing works like that.”
Remember, plotting a coup is illegal, and nothing works like that.
There couldn’t have been a conspiracy to stage a coup because Alex Jones is dumb, some said.
The FBI has not yet confirmed if Alex Jones is dumb, or whether there had or had not been an order to Alex Jones from The White House, before, during, or after Trump’s glorious call for his supporters to flush their way down Pennsylvania Avenue and defecate on the floors of the Capitol building.
It is said, by none other than Jones himself (and who would not believe him?) that The White House contacted him personally to bestow on him the title of The Pie Piper, Lord Jones of the Defecants (great DJ name, he could drop the splatters that matter!) and decreed he should lead thousands of people, many of whom he and his side-kicks had been whipping into a revolutionary frenzy for years, and just skirt by the Capitol building and call them off before anything completely inevitable ever happened.
Let’s not ignore the fact that Alex Jones could have been a patsy here. He could have been that dumb as to believe he was leading an important peaceful mission on behalf of the president himself.
It would not have been difficult for The White House contact (if there was such a contact and that is who it was) to appeal to Jones over-inflated ego and send him ahead of his acolytes and the assorted gathered various cells of domestic mother’s clubs, telling Jones he must save the day and turn away from the Capitol building at the last moment.
Jones ego is likely large enough to believe he could pull off such a feat, and his White House handler knew this.
Only problem being – scrub that – one of the problems with this theory is that Alex Jones is well aware of the 3.5% rule.
Another problem is that as Jones and his researchers endlessly scan media for any of grunt or growl that may look as if it may hang out with the “one world government,” Jones would already be aware he and his cohorts’ constant inflammatory diatribes were spilling over into real world violence.
Jones has read too much about brainwashing and manipulation not to know the effects of what he is doing.
We will not ponder the machinations that led to the Waco massacre in this article.
We will, however, ponder the imprint that event left on a narcissistic fantasist with a grudge against society. A grudge that propelled him deep into his own shadow, in his unconscious yearning to manifest in and through his own self the authority figure that he thought he was fighting against.
“A day after Mr Flynn tweeted out the calls for martial law, Mr Trump published a 46-minute video to Facebook calling on the Supreme Court to overturn the results in the key swing states that delivered the projected victory to the Democrats.
“He also suggested a “re-vote” be held, as had been suggested in the ad on Tuesday that called for the military to run the re-lection.
“When the legislators, courts…
……..fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote,” the ad said.”
This was the trigger for the Manchurian Presidential Candidate.
When Alex Jones interviewed Michael Flynn for infowars on January 5th, 2021, Flynn said the following:
“We are essentially in a national emergency which the president has already declared, he just has to decide whether to execute some of those procedures that are well within his authority.”
I wonder what Alex Jones was saying on his infowars radio show back on December 20th, 2020?
Shall we have a listen?
Of course, none of what has been said in this article can be true.
The idea for the title came from an article I had recently read on Alternet.org, where the author pondered that a law maker could have been injured during the attack, theoretically giving Donald Trump the chance to declare a national emergency and stay in office indefinitely, or until the presidential election had been gerrymandered in his favour, likely ending in the same result.
For anyone who is interested in how Alex Jones became, well Alex Jones, Beware the Jabberwock – Alex in Wonderland, is essential listening.
But anyhow, I digress.
And before I continue, yes, I know, self-promotion is terribly distasteful.
I thought my post on Reddit may spark debate on if there was a conspiracy to cause a certain outcome on January 6th, 2021, and if so, what it may involve.
Whilst there were a few people willing to ponder the question – although I will admit, the wording would not necessarily be read as a question – those who shouted the loudest and assumed the most authority on the subject seemed not only unwilling to ponder the question, they also wanted to shut down the argument.
Now why would a person, or people want to do that, I thought?
Whilst my first suspicions were dark and, of course, assumed a much higher importance for my post and article than they deserved, what possibly became a more probable answer was even more absurd.
The first comment on my post was resolute:
Someone shot back, pointing out Mike Flynn had allegedly outlined a plan to Trump in mid-December to enact martial law (Marshall law for those more used to reading right-wing blogs, although Marshall Law or just Law, is a player character from the Tekken fighting game franchise by Bandai Namco Entertainment, according to Wikipedia,) and rerun the presidential election in the battleground states Trump narrowly lost.
The next comment from suckercuck, a name that can’t help raising suspicions, really did make no sense whatsoever:
Why, one would have to think, would the Trump administration worry about if something was legal?
Trump’s whole tenure was based on skirting, pushing, or transgressing the law as far as it could, whilst hoping for the least consequences.
And there is something about the wording.
Ostensibly, suckercuck had appeared to be anti-Trump, however, the wording of this comment raised a red (shall we say)-flag.
Suckercuck appears to be saying Alex Jones would not do something illegal. Maybe he is correct in this assumption and Jones is aware just how far he can skirt the law with his work, whilst remaining outside of the clutches of law enforcement.
Surely the only people desperate enough to want to point out that Jones would not do something against the law would be, well, Alex Jones. Or maybe Paul Joseph Watson. A giant swathe of his supporters has very publicly demonstrated that breaking the law to achieve their desired outcome is not so much of a problem
However, that is not to say Jones may have been involved in a conspiracy without being aware of exactly what the plan is, or if there was a darker plan at all. Remember, as William Burroughs said, the best agent, is an agent that doesn’t know he’s an agent.
This should have been the sort of deduction made by those who were to shout the loudest that Jones is dumb (he isn’t, but he is an asshole,) but this wasn’t their line of thinking at all.
I was then faced by another reddit contributor who asserted the following:
This comment was bizarre in several ways.
For a start, my blog post link was quoting Alex Jones. And there can be no more primary a source for something Alex Jones said than, well, Alex Jones.
Secondly, it was widely reported that allegedly Trump, or at least “advisors” around Trump were encouraging Trump to consider enacting martial law in December 2020.
Thirdly, the title was indeed conjecture, but it is conjecture that has been seriously considered in other publications, many of them mainstream, so many people think this not to be completely out of the question.
Fourthly, wow, someone is really pissed off!
Fifthly, a lie that was redacted and to end someone is really not liking the fact I posted on this subreddit (r/January 6) at all.
Now, why might that be?
Troll imposters, or as they are more widely known, sockpuppets, have two highly tell-tale ways of operating, amongst others.
One is to attempt to take control of the debate and lead it into a blind alley other direction that is somewhat unrelated, to get people thinking about anything else but the article and any insightful comments below.
Another is to just attempt to shut the discussion down and make any comments supporting their opposing, but not always overtly professed views seem ridiculous, unlikely, or even imaginary.
Have You Seen Yourself in The Mirror Yet?
Sockpuppetry is even more distasteful than self-promotion.
But what was all this opposition to my post trying to achieve?
Another possible answer became apparent soon enough.
ShlongVonLong returned with another missive:
There are several things that stand out here but let’s cut to the chase.
First, no one has ever said, and I had not asserted that Alex Jones is a reliable source, or that Roger Stone is not about as near as Jones was getting to the Trump administration (although on January 6th, 2021, Jones has asserted that he received a call from The White House to lead the march along Pennsylvania Avenue, we will ponder this assertion in a near future sequel to this article.)
You’ll notice that where ShlongVonLong starts to somewhat converge with some of my thinking, they then go on to recommend another audio blog that comments on Alex Jones. That person has also stated just before that they listen to 10 hours of Alex Jones a week.
What sort of Alex Jones hater would want to listen to 10 hours of his shows a week and then subject themselves to three hours of analysis of Alex Jones?
As most of Jones’ show is just ads and garbage, short soundbites around the main points and a little insightful commentary will suffice for most who want to keep their sanity
What might make sense though, is for an Alex Jones podcast send-up researcher to spend 10 hours listening to Alex Jones and then multiple hours recording three hours plus podcasts of inane and downright short-sighted analysis of Jones and his sidekicks.
Folks, I listened to a little Knowledge Fight, so you don’t have to, and this is how insightful they are – they didn’t predict what would happen on January 6th and they were surprised by what happened and how quickly it happened on the day.
Jeez, I predicted almost exactly the scenario that occurred on January 6, before Trump was elected in this article.
This led me to the belief that it was very likely I was being trolled by the authors of a podcast who believe themselves to be a rival to rebelinfo.com.
This reddit behavior would be the internet version of a creepy old guy sleazing around women to get their way. Just be honest, no one likes a manipulative creep.
Collaboration beats competition any time.
However, there are some other scenarios:
It could be a section of FBI officers who have made a poor decision not to investigate Jones, Stone and Shroyer more thoroughly over the events of January 6th
It could be people that just like being dicks on the internet and are incapable of forming any opinion either way
It could all be in my own mind
It could be the Russians – look over here, look over here, look at the birdy
That’s enough conspiracy for now, we will consider these options and possibly more in upcoming posts at rebelinfo.com.
We continue the story of how Alex Jones and his sidekicks (including Owen Shroyer, who was charged on Friday August 20th, 2021, in connection with the Jan. 6 riots at the US Capitol) lit the fuse which exploded into the January 6 capitol insurrection at Washington D.C.
In our story, it is now December 21, 2020. Shroyer, who is standing in for Alex Jones, warms up with multiple chunks of misinformation about the Covid pandemic, including a puerile section with Jones in which they accuse Dr Fauci of castrating Santa Claus and telling the audience the Covid vaccine “eats the placenta” and makes women infertile.
A pre-recorded clip features Alex Jones defining the term terrorism as follows:
“Terrorism is the threat of force, or actually carrying out force, for a political or financial reason – it’s basically scaring the hell out of people until you submit to them.”
Later in the show, Shroyer reports on a live feed from Oregon, where right-wing protesters are attempting to take the capitol building by force.
Shroyer tells the audience he is in the Christmas spirit and then goes on to call on as many people as possible to go to the state capitol building of Oregon to help take over the building by force.
He tells the police, who he says “make him sick” that they need to “stand down” and “get out of the way” and let the protesters take over the building.
He then calls for supporters to take over the capitol building of every state in the USA by force.
Owen Shroyer calls for revolution on numerous occasions and he states that he doesn’t see any other way forward than doing it by force.
Now, lets remember Jones dictionary definition of terrorism:
“Terrorism is the threat of force, or actually carrying out force, for a political or financial reason – it’s basically scaring the hell out of people until you submit to them.”
One would have to say, that Jones definition of terrorism is earily similar to Shroyers calls for the police to stand down and get out of the way and his order to his supporters to take all U.S. capitol buildings by force.
If anyone is in any doubt as to what fueled the insurrection of January 6 2021, they really need look no further than this infowars broadcast.
Professors used artificial intelligence machine learning to compare the characteristics of an actual known and proven conspiracy which took place on earth in real time, and a conspiracy theory
What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy?
It could be a great question, but has the question been formulated correctly?
And is “conspiracy theory” still the correct term for belief in phenomenon such as “pizzagate?”
Once again, these could be great questions. Let us put them aside for one moment and turn our attention to an experiment carried out by researchers at UCLA.
Professors used artificial intelligence machine learning to compare the characteristics of an actual known and proven conspiracy which tool place on earth in real time, and a conspiracy theory which has been repeatedly debunked and known to be not true.
Well not true in the real world.
In the world of Qanon and his/her followers – the Qanonces – nothing is true and facts are not proven….
A “billionaire who founded an influential pro-Brexit thinktank has “a link with Russian intelligence,” according to a report in The Guardian.
An MP of the ruling British Conservative government has used parliamentary privilege to allege that a “billionaire who founded an influential pro-Brexit thinktank has “a link with Russian intelligence,” according to a report in The Guardian.
The report goes on to say that Bob Seely MP, used a speech in the House of Commons to suggest that Christopher Chandler, a billionaire who along with his brother made his fortune in Russia in the 1990’s, was previously under investigation by the French DST intelligence agency (the equivalent of UK’s MI5) on suspicion of working for Russian intelligence services.
Seely said he had seen the DST files, along with four other UK MP’s and he was convinced the files were genuine.
It just “oh-so-coincidentally” turns out that Chandler founded a Pro-Brexit lobby group, The Legatum Institute which has been lobbying British Government ministers intensely for a “Hard Brexit,” whereby Britain drops out of the EU and EU Customs union completely, falling back on WTO rules and tariffs, which most economists have suggested would be a disaster for the overall British economy.
According to The Guardian report “The Legatum Institute has advocated hard Brexit and has had significant influence on ministerial thinking, especially over trade policy,” and further goes on to allege that according to a Daily Mail investigation last year, the economics director of The Legatum Institute, “Shanker Singham, had met (UK Foreign Office Minister) Boris Johnson and (UK Environment Minister) Michael Gove, and had coordinated a letter written by them to (UK Prime Minister) Theresa May demanding a hard Brexit.”
What’s that you say, our old friend Boris Johnson, who had been so quick to paint the Leader of Her Majesties Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn as a communist traitor in a made up story that even Conservative BBC commentator Andrew Neil dismissed as hogwash…..
….has been hob nobbing and deciding Brexit policy with alleged Russian operatives?…….yes, that’s right, the same Boris Johnson who has been at the centre of mysterious claims of meeting with the “Russian Professor” who had links with a supposed plot by Putin to swing the Brexit vote in favour of leave by many nefarious means…..
Yes, that’s it, it’s the same Boris Johnson who finds himself neck deep in Russian plots and intrigue linked to Brexit but instead of looking at himself, he imagines he sees others knee-deep in Russian intrigue everywhere.
So, let’s note another similarity that Johnson shares with his (now, when it suits him) beloved Donald Trump – The ability to project his own reckless and unwise actions onto others that he doesn’t like very much.
Time to get a mirror Boris, we’ve all seen ya, it’s time to take a good look at yourself!
Alex Jones’ Infowars put a twelve-year-old live on-air to declare civil war in the United States on Saturday evening
The twelve-year-old declared….
“You need to pick up your weapons and go to war”
Alex Jones’ Infowars put a twelve-year-old live on-air to declare civil war in the United States on Saturday evening.
The twelve-year-old described the “plot by deep state Forces,” – which turns out to be nothing more than public officials just doing their job – as a “false witch hunt” (yup) which was part of an “all-out information war right now,” and “they are trying to take down your president and you can’t let that happen.”
The bits where his throat goes a bit dry in this video could signify where he might be lying….